Jenny: Krissie’s Bathroom Sink

Every house I live in has a room called Krissie’s room, and the cottage is no exception.  It’s the small bedroom at the front of the house with a big bay window:

It has lots of light but it’s still very quiet.  Sounds wonderful, doesn’t it?  Except the bedroom is 9′ x 9′ and the bath is 7′ x 45″.   At the moment, the bath is really a powder room, but it has to have a great shower with a rainfall showerhead if it’s going be Krissie’s bathroom, so I am currently cogitating on the problem.

Here’s the bedroom floorplan now:

The door to the hall is on a slant because it was the only way the original builders could get the stairs and the bathroom in.   There’s a tiny closet under the stairs, a big window seat with three windows, and that’s it.  I can fit a daybed in there if Krissie uses the window seat as a bedside table.  And as this plan stands, she’d have to go out in the hall to get to the bathroom, and that door is easily visible from the living room, which I also don’t like.

So the first plan is to move that bathroom door into Krissie’s room, which is going to narrow our options even more.  Then we add the shower to the tiny bathroom which is not big enough for that with current sink in there.

 

 

Which brings us to options one and two.

 

Option One:  We turn the entire bathroom into a shower that has a toilet in it since  7′ x 45″ is a decent size shower.  Then we put a good wide vanity and sink in the bedroom.  A little unconventional but actually more accurate to the times when bedrooms had washstands in them.  Forget floor space; with the vanity there, Krissie has about forty inches between her bed and the vanity.  On the other hand, it’s a good size white furniture type vanity and a huge mirror with lots of natural light from the two windows.

 

 

 

 

Or there’s Option 2

Option 2 puts a really tiny sink in the corner of the shower.  Like 18″ on a side.  Tiny.  It would be lousy for putting on make-up but just fine for brushing your teeth.  Hell, she could brush her teeth while she showered. And it opens up space in the bedroom for a very small desk or bureau.

I’m still cogitating and Krissie has yet to weigh in, but what do you think?


114 thoughts on “Jenny: Krissie’s Bathroom Sink

  1. Briana says:

    Personally, I would go for Option 1 at the moment. But that’s first glance. I will think on it, though. I might change my mind. You should know that, in case you decide to put a room for me in there. (!)

    Also, could the hinges on the bedroom door be changed so that the door swings out instead of in? That might make it feel like a bit more space.

    • Danielle says:

      A pocket door wouldn’t work with option #1 because of the sink plumbing, but for what it’s worth, that was my first thought, too.

    • That’s what the contractor said.
      I said no because they didn’t fit with the age of the cottage, because sliding doors get stuck, and because it really wouldn’t give me anymore space since I have to leave the area in front of the doors empty anyway.

      • Micki says:

        We’ve got several sliding doors in our house (but not fighting plumbing) . . . I’ll see what I can find. Ours are removable, too.

  2. I kind of like the idea of option one. Especially as Krissie likes to write in one of your recliners. So really, a bureau or desk probably wouldn’t be needed. I’m assuming there’d be a shelf or two beneath the vanity, so she could put make up and stuff in there.

    The bathroom I use(corner shower, loo, and small vanity)at my daughter’s place, is really tiny, but I don’t mind it at all. It’s private. I don’t have to walk down halls half naked. Except the cats like it too, so I have to share. : )

    • The private part is important. And Krissie likes a big shower. It’s right off the tiny living room, so there’ll be a place for a recliner in there. I hope.

      • Hmmmm. Hadn’t thought of that. Of course you’d end up with my fabric stash in your room . . .
        And I’d never see any of it again.

        The room is too small for the table in your room now, though.

  3. Rose says:

    If you reversed the door to the hall so that it opens out into the hall, would the bed fit along that wall with enough room to get in past the sink in option one? Then you could put a desk in the opposite corner.

  4. I like option one. Could the vanity be designed to also be a desk or have extra drawers as a small dresser?

    When I designed the guest/hall bathroom, I didn’t want glass doors or a shower curtain. We designed the all tile walk-in shower so that water wouldn’t spray all over or run out over the rest of the floor. We also used glass block on the upper half of the wall we built out to form the shower. It kept things light and brighter. I should take pictures because my description definitely doesn’t give a real image.

  5. I’m a bigger fan of Option one. As others have said, a pocket door into the bathroom would also help maximize space.

    A pocket door might also leave room for a small table next to the head of the bed, which would allow you to scoot the bed into the corner and have more maneuvering room to get into the closet under the stairs.

    If it’s not going to be in constant use, you could could also add a fold-down desk on the wall…something like this: https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-2hkmzHdMeDg/TneUW-3TbHI/AAAAAAAAI5c/inBb2Irz0CU/wall-art-desk-fold-down-8.jpg
    Most of the time, it could be closed, and not crowding the room, but it could be there if/when it’s needed. And it’s an opportunity to add some nice accent colors/decor 🙂

    • Since the window is the focal point, I’m better off centering the bed on that wall, using the window seat as a big bedtable–lots of room for books, big lamp, workbasket–and using the walls on either side as places to hang clothes.

  6. oneoftheotherjennifers says:

    I like option two. I’ve stayed in rooms with a sink in the bedroom, and I slop water everywhere and it stresses me out.

    A nice mirror above the desk in the bedroom would solve the make-up issue.

    • First I was going to suggest a sink in the bedroom, but I actually like option two better with the above suggestion of a mirror in the room for any makeup that needs doing. A built in vanity really limits the options of the bedroom too much, IMHO.

    • It’s that kind of sink. Looks just like the vintage sinks that were in the house (I saved them, they’re going back in the other bathrooms) but smaller and in a corner.

  7. Man, it must be nice to be your best friend. I love my old time pal, but she’s never had a room named after her.

    Okay, I like option 1. I don’t mind that whole European arrangement of sink in the room, and shower in the other. For me, the thing is a larger shower. A small one requires more contortions, and that’s sometimes hard on a bad Fibro day.

  8. Lesley says:

    Or Option 3 .. If you’re considering moving the sink into the bedroom, why not move the entire bathroom wall out, making it flush with the window. With Option 1 you’ve already taken up that space. A bigger bathroom with everything in it, and a bedroom with a day bed. It sounds like the bathroom is your focus and a shower is the prime object, so go for it – sacrifice some bedroom space and do the bathroom with everything you need in there.

  9. Option 1, definitely, but I like the pocket doors idea for the bathroom and Holly’s Murphy bed idea. Anything to add space and to allow you to use the room when Krissie (or anyone else) isn’t in residence.

  10. Diane (TT) says:

    I would lean toward #1, but I mostly just wanted to say that I LOVE the window: the beautiful contrast between the rich darkness of the wood and the light pouring in.

  11. Danielle says:

    Option #1 gets my (professional – I’m an interior designer) vote. Just another wrench in everyone’s plans, though: if you plan to put in a light above the sink (which I would recommend so Krissie can see what she’s doing), you won’t be able to put in a pocket door. The wiring for the light would be inside the wall cavity (along with the plumbing for the sink). Sorry to be a party pooper… Especially because it is a good idea.

    I like the curtain idea. As someone else up there said, it’s just Krissie in there, right?

    • Well, it would also be the powder room for the living toom when Krissie isn’t there. I could make the shower curtain the same fabric as the rest of the curtains in the room, but I still like doors on my toilets.

      • Me, too. I went out with a guy who had a bathroom with bi-fold louvered doors, and I was self conscious peeing. I mean it was only a second date. And I was old too, and had been married and given birth, and you’d think it wouldn’t matter, but it does. : )

  12. Option 1. I would knock myself out when I bent over to shave (or, more likely, pick up something I dropped) and rammed my head into the sink in Option 2. 😉

    With a decent sized shower, you can fit in a bench for the days when gravity is just too much work.

  13. In Japan they have toilets that have sinks consolidated with the tank. Just a thought.

    And I think a curtain or one of those slide-out doors would work well. Doors do take up a bunch of space and it’s a small room.

      • Micki says:

        And you have to flush the toilet to get any water (washing your face, etc.), as well as making sure the lid is closed so you don’t drop your make-up bag down the pot. The little sink on top IS enchanting (especially with little rocks and maybe an airplant that you wash often to prevent mold (-:), but it’s limited to being a fingerbowl, really.

        There’s the Japanese Hotel Bathroom, with a shower/tub and toilet all combined in a unit bath, but you’d probably lose your bathroom window that way (although, in our shower/tub combo, we got a window, which vastly improves the circulation!).

  14. I’d move the bed in the other direction so the window seat area sits in the headboard position. Would give more flow and free up space because if you use the seat as a shelf, you don’t have to worry about a nightstand. Then you could still fit in a thin bureau or shelving unit on either the wall where a bureau stands now (but up a bit) or on the wall facing the bathroom.

    As for the sink issue, I’d put in a corner shower as opposed to a rectangular one–ergo freeing up a bit of space to put in a small sink–either pedestal-style or the kind directly attached to the wall (they have some cute ones now).

    Then for the door, I’d actually put in two half-sized doors that open together. They are very cottage-friendly, take up way less space when they open and can carry off very decorative knobs. An inexpensive way to do them is to buy nice bifold doors but rather than having them hinge together, each one gets attached to the door frame so when they close they meet in the middle. I’d get the solid kind, though, so you can still attach hooks to the backside–very space saving.

    Gorgeous windows, btw.

    • German Chocolate Betty says:

      I had those half doors in my house in the States years ago and they were perfect. I am actually thinking of resuscitating them for the kitchen here. I was going to suggest them too, but @katyL beat me to it!

  15. I like Option 1–very European. One of the B&Bs we stayed in when we were in Ireland had that type of setup and it was grand. One space-making option for the bedroom might be a Murphy bed that sits on the wall horizontally and has a fold-down work table attached to the bottom that can be used as a desk when the bed is folded up against the wall. Son and his wife are considering this option for the room that will be their guest room after the baby takes over the current guest room. I thought it was kinda inventive.

  16. Micki says:

    Must rush off, but I love the vanity in the bedroom . . . great for late-night water breaks! Also: have you considered pocket doors or “shoji doors” (which don’t have to look like shoji; they are just removable sliding doors)?Less bashing around. Could make ’em in frosted safety glass.

    If this is a first floor, and there are no neighbors on that side, you could also do a “bump out” like a bay window for the shower, and “bring the outdoors in” — have beautiful gardens around the window so it feels like you are showering . . . in the wilds of New Jersey (-:.

    • The side window is over steps that lead down to the back yard. No bumping out.
      Krissie would love shoiji doors but they’re wrong for the house.

      • Micki says:

        OK, let me go into crazy territory: absolutely insane would be to give Krissie a tatami room — very small, very elegant, with folding futons and shoji doors. (-: Many western houses in Japan have this kind of room downstairs, and it’s considered the grandparent room — close to the door for semi-private exits, and it is a sitting room during the day, sleeping room at night. HUGE minus: very hard to live on the floor, and many Japanese aren’t doing it anymore, either.

        Second crazy idea: Recliner instead of a bed? Big ol’ Lazy Boy (or something that is very sleepable) with a very nice big nightstand for medical supplies. I’m actually thinking about replacing our beds with recliners for my not-bad-enough-to-be-treated sleep apnea.

        Third crazy idea: is it possible to get some sort of shower tube? Is it a comfortable option? Perhaps with a corner saved, you could fit in the extra sink and vanity.

        I feel like that bumpout in the bedroom isn’t being fully realized . . . .

        (-: OK, this hasn’t been helpful, but this is SO much fun, and quite a bit easier than BSJ’s dancing pole in your Squalor on the River house (-:.

        BTW, Japanese hotel bathroom pic from trip advisor, originally: http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/01/2c/75/f1/bathroom-s-not-too-big.jpg Could be done in MUCH nicer colors. They really aren’t that bad, though.

  17. I like the pocket door idea, but if that is a no-go, you can do what I did in my old house in San Diego. I put in a special built bi-fold door, with the fold going out into the room. This makes the intrusion into the space half of what a regular door would do. I also had the door made solid core, so that I could mount hardware on the door (for towels or whatever) and not worry about it falling out. (The door didn’t really cost very much either, if memory serves … did a special order at home depot.)

    One book I find really inspirational for this type of design work is http://www.amazon.com/DK-Home-Design-Workbooks-One-Room/dp/0789419939/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1331876927&sr=8-1

    On page 33 in the book they show a combo-toilet unit that might work wonderfully in that space. (The sink swings away when you need to use the toilet.)

    Also, there area lot of books on small apartments and one-room living that have amazing design ideas. In particular European design is amazing when it comes to this sort of space.

    Wish you lived close by, I would be happy to loan you my library of small space design books!

  18. Reb says:

    I saw a travel vanity in a museum once. It was a roll-topped vanity-sized cupboard with a loo bowl in the bottom, a seat above that, then a sink, then a writing desk surface with little drawers. The bits you weren’t using rotated out of the way.

    Must admit it squicked me out a bit, but one that flushed wouldn’t have so much of that effect.

  19. German Chocolate Betty says:

    Well, we here in European know from small bathrooms. Our masterbath is hardly bigger than yours.

    Have you thought about a corner toilet? Here’s a picture from a UK site showing a tiny bath showing one.

    http://www.tescobathrooms.com/images/bathroom-suites/small-bathroom-suites/milano-rydal-suite-corner-toilet-1500

    If you move the toilet to the corner, you’d probably have room for a smallist sink between it and the shower stall….

    Otherwise I would go with option two. This is used a lot here in Europe too. Of course, when this is done, there is no shower stall, rather the floor is tiled level, (i.e., no lip) graded, however, to run toward shower drain (and a shower curtain on a ceiling track. Probably not possible with your construction there (plus you’d really have to tile the walls at least at the shower end). However, it does make truly optimal use of a small space.

    I love the vanity, but having lived in places where a sink is part of the bedroom furnishings, I don’t like it. A friend of mine in Belgium had had one in her guest room (bought the house that way) and finally had the friggin’ thing removed. I wouldn’t go there, personally.

    (Someone above mentioned the sink in the bedroom as “European” with sort of a “oh wonderful” undertone. Let me tell you, having lived in Europe more or less continuously for 30 years there are things you long for. Like real bathroom vanities.

    Also, a couple of years ago I saw some stoves in the US with the (oo-la-la!) “European cooktops”. Those friggin’ flat burners, which you CANNOT take apart and clean and which become caked with grease and discolored and I thought, man, I *hated* those suckers, my kitchen always looked grubby and you couldn’t PAY me to have one of those damn things again. (I have a porcelain cooktop, the next one is induction…)

    Okay, back to work!

      • German Chocolate Betty says:

        Yeah, I gotta say, I think the corner toilet makes for such an efficient use of space and is absolutely perfect for teensy bathrooms. In fact, I may use one if/when we remodel our tiny and boring (plain vanilla in more than one sense of the word) bath.

    • JulieB says:

      As my students would say (but not in an academic paper) “That toilet is The $h!^.”

      And apparently, that’s a good thing. 🙂

    • Katie says:

      I definitely vote for the corner toilet. Don’t think I’d want the sink in the bedroom, either. I had one in my tiny (like closet sized) dorm room when I stayed in London for a few weeks, and that was convenient because I was sharing a bathroom with the whole wing. But when you’ve got a private bathroom, better to just put the sink in there.

  20. We have a powder room adjacent to a guest bedroom. It’s just a toilet and small basin a bit larger than a large keyboard, leaving enough room to open the door. If the window next to the toilet is at a reasonable height you cold probably fit one under it. We also have toilets here that have a basin, which is included as part of the toilet on top of the cistern. A person flushes, they wash their hands and that water fills the cistern again and is used to flush. Some bright spark came up with the idea when the country was going through a terrible drought and drinking water was used to flush toilets, which seemed like a waste 🙂

  21. stephanie says:

    I’m not an architecturally visual person and I’m lost reading the comments. My apologies if this has been covered or you’ve already said this can’t work. I’m only working on half a Pop-Tart this morning.

    What if… you have the vanity/ wash stand in the room and the bathroom is one of those open kind of showers where the whole place is tiled, the nozzle is in the corner, you just walk in to shower but the toilet is in the other side.

    Now back to the rest of my poptart and iced coffee.

    • The bathroom is entirely tiles, it’s a shower with a toilet in it. So I’ve gotten that far. And the nozzle will essentially be in one corner or really close to it (we don’t want the direction of the water to point toward the toilet end). If you walk into the shower first, the water will come out the door, so we need the door at the other end.
      I’m slow today, too. Not following.

  22. JulieB says:

    I prefer option 1 because even though the shower would be large, without my contacts in I can’t see anything in the shower and I’d probably bump into the sink. Since Krissie wears glasses, I’m guessing she might also have a harder time seeing in the shower as the lenses fog up.

    I’ve kept trying to come up with alternate suggestions, because I really prefer not to have things in front of the windows. I like to be able to get to them easily to open and close them, but shifting the bathroom door to the inside of the bedroom really eliminates those options. If you could fit the bed in perpendicular to the bathroom wall and get a pocket door in, that might sway me to option 2.

    FWIW, the first house we bought had pocket doors original to the house between the entry and the living room. We are not exactly sure when the house was built, but that section of town was platted in 1912. I think if you found a door that was typical of the rest of the ones in your cottage, it would blend in just fine.

    • Houses built in that period had pocket doors; I lived in one. Houses built in this style didn’t. It’s just a little old lake cottage. Also, having lived with doors that slid into walls, they’re a PITA.

  23. romney says:

    I would consider closing up the bedroom door and using the bathroom door instead.

    OR a variation on option 1 – put the bed under the flat window. move the bathroom door to where you’re putting the sink. And the sink on the other wall entirely. With a desk looking out of the window.

    • I’m not following.
      The door in the middle of the shower means water comes out the door (not enough distance from the shower head) and the door gets wet, so I’d have to have a glass door in the middle of the bedroom wall plus a lip that people step over to get to the john. I have the same space problem (about a foot on either side) no matter what wall I put the bed on. I would get the closet wall to put the sink on, but that’s running more plumbing farther. Unless I’m misunderstanding–highly possible–I still end up with a bed and a vanity in the bedroom, but a smaller shower? I’m probably just having a hard time seeing this without drawings.

  24. Denisetwin says:

    For a more “bowl” look, we bought a vanity for our small downstairs bathroom at Home Depot that looked similar to this
    http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-25ecodZ5yc1v/R-202193243/h_d2/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10053&langId=-1&keyword=compact%20vanity&storeId=10051
    but the bowl part actually curves out from the vanity more so it looks like a bowl instead of a sink – but no splashing since the bowl covers the entire top – very compact. love it and it was only $99 on sale. Of course trying and failing to find a picture of it made me see this
    http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-25ecodZ5yc1v/R-202667373/h_d2/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10053&langId=-1&keyword=sink%20with%20vanity&storeId=10051
    sooo cute! A tiny sink with a makeup counter and stool?!!! I have no place to put it and my house has nothing that looks antique like this but I want it anyway!

  25. Kay says:

    I vote option 1. When we lived in the UK, we had 2 bathrooms, one an ensuite and one separate. The ensuite was tiny and I always felt like I had to be a contortionist to use it. We ended up using the other side of the house and other bathroom because I hated that esuite. If Krissie prefers a large shower, I think option 2 would drive her insane. I’ve also stayed in places with vanities in the bedroom and I’ve been fine with it but I suppose it’s all where one’s comfort areas are…

  26. Egads says:

    I like the corner toilet that was suggested. It makes the bathroom more roomy looking. It might give you enough wall space to put the sink outside the shower.

    If you have enough wall space on the bathroom door wall to shift the door 6 inches towards the shower, can you put a corner sink to the right of the door as you walk in the bathroom?

    • Not unless I also move the toilet, at which point I’ll have lost eighteen inches of usable wall space in the bedroom.
      At 45″ wide, you pretty much walk into the toilet now. Cramming something else in beside the toilet is not a good idea, plus by code you need 2.5 feet clear around it, so I’d be taking over three feet out of a seven foot room, leaving me with a 3′ x 4′ shower which is not big enough. So the door has to stay as close to the outside wall as possible.

  27. Jane F says:

    This might be tight but what if you had a small sink in the bathroom between (or under) the window and the wall and turned the toilet so that the tank is along the outside wall (sitting on it you would face the shower.)

    Also, minor detail, but if you do go with option 1 you might consider having the door to the bathroom open towards the wall. I know it would drive me crazy to have to walk around the door to wash my hands when I could be easier if the hinges were on the other side.

    • You need 2.5 feet along a wall for a toilet by code which would leave people fifteen inches to walk into the room and turn. Not enough.
      I put the door that way because it offers the most privacy as you open it. The door shields the bathroom from the rest of the room. I had a powder room here where if you opened the door, the first thing you saw was the toilet. And people left the door open all the time when they were done. You don’t walk around the door to get to the sink, you close the door and the sink is right there.

      Hmmm. Maybe I should put in both sinks.

  28. McB says:

    I rather like the idea of the sink/vanity in the bedroom. That would allow for more counter space, which is always nice for laying out your stuff. And actually, this is a fairly common practice in hotel rooms. Okay, the sinks are usually in an alcove space, but they are still separate from the toilet and shower. And really, why do you reall need the sink to be in with the shower and toilet anyway? You don’t need the same level of privacy to brush your teeth or put on makeup as you do to tinkle.

    I hate tiny little showers. They’re awkward, and that’s coming from somone who is very petite.

  29. Diann says:

    I really like having the vanity in the bedroom – particularly when the bathroom is small. Plus, in the bedroom you will have much better light for putting on makeup, etc. I’m wondering if your bathroom window is high enough to move the shower to the window side? That might give you a little more useable space (or maybe I just like to hide things in corners).

  30. Robin S. says:

    So this is why I will never be a decorator. I don’t care what “goes with the house”. (This house was built in the 60’s, you should see the wall paper I ripped out of this house.) I like comfort and what makes me happy. So if I decided I wanted Victorian pleasures, I would just do it and ignore the fact that I’m living in a tiny 3 bedroom 60’s Ranch with miniscule Anderson windows. So my 2 cents is do what makes you happy. Which, horror of horrors, I guess includes painting the window white!

    • Yeah, but I do care what goes with the house. I have a collection of vintage art glass that I started putting in this 80s house and most of it looks just wrong. The simpler pieces will look good in the cottage, but the really ornate stuff I’m going to have to figure out what to do with. I love the glass in the hallway, it’s truly truly gorgeous, but it has NEVER looked right there. Bugs the hell out of me.

  31. When I was traveling in England and Wales 20 years ago, I stayed in B&Bs most of the time and I got accustomed to the en suite sink and vanity quickly. I like it quite a bit. And when I lived with someone, it was always a pain when I wanted a place to mess with putting on jewelry or makeup and my roommate was always in the bathroom at that time. 🙂

    I do love the corner toilet, too. Makes the bathroom look larger.

  32. Coming late to this, and having read through, I like Option #1, but I have a suggestion:

    The vanity you picked out works, but if you want extra storage and the ability to hide makeup, etc., consider getting another plain cabinet (same style as the vanity) and cutting out the bottom and putting it over the sink, hutch-like. You could remove the shelving to put up a mirror, or keep part of the shelving to have a light in there (you’d have the contractor do this, but it’s cheap and easy to do — and you’d punch a hole in the back for the wiring of the light to go through to a socket, much like a hole for the TV wires to go through an armoire.)

    It wouldn’t alter the footprint you have for Option 1, but it’d give that sink more of a clandestine feeling of privacy and reduce the feeling that the sink was in the middle of the room.

    Lastly, may I suggest something more like this for the bed:

    Source: google.it via Toni on Pinterest

    (I hope that worked.)

    This could be designed with a bay window–with drawer space below instead of another mattress so that Krissie has some storage. If you put her head at the center of the bay, the bed wouldn’t have to protrude into the room quite as much and you might steal a couple more feet in the room itself for a chair.

  33. Kelly S says:

    I like option 1 but I know from the comments there are now extra options. Are corner toilets available in the US?

  34. molly says:

    Wow– that tesco bathroom German Chocolate Betty posted is incredible. I stayed in a friends flat in Odense and she had a floor drain, fully tiled walls, and a track for a shower curtain in the ceiling. When the curtain was pulled, the small porcelain pedestal sink was within its scope. When the curtain was open, you almost didn’t notice the shower head on the wall. The plus side of this arrangement: You clean your bathroom every time you take a shower (:D) and any time you weren’t taking a shower, the bathroom seemed larger.

    Wanted to let Jenny know that if she ends up deciding on a pocket door: You need to get the more expensive hangers, and they will work fine. (They’ll cost $125 plus just for the hardware.) If you get the standard (cheap) ones they always drag or break. Add to that faulty installation. We just fixed a pocket door in a house where the drywallers put long screws right into the pocket door cavity– leaving long scratches on the door and making it nearly impossible to pull it closed. What were they thinking? Properly installed pocket doors are pretty wonderful. This, however, doesn’t solve your plumbing-being-in-the-way-of-the-pocket problem.

    • molly says:

      PS: The Odense bathroom had a diverter over the sink that sent water to the shower– so you used the H and C knobs from the sink, which made the shower even stealthier.

    • The only pocket door I ever had was from 1912. It was a big gorgeous thing, and it got stuck with great regularity probably due to age and warping.
      We’re going for simple here.

  35. molly says:

    PPS: Jon’s home– he says Deep Japanese-style Soaking Tub (one of his favorite things to put in a small bathroom.)

    He also says to look at Houzz.com. This place will make you crazy happy. It’s been a godsend for helping people he’s working with visualize building design details. If you register, you can save your own scrap book of ideas. (idea book)

    • I am staying away from Houzz.
      This one has to be a walk-in shower because I need something you don’t have to step into. I’m not planning on moving ever again, so I need a walk-in shower that’s ADA compliant.
      But the other two bathrooms are getting tubs big enough to stretch out and soak in. I’m addicted to the one I have here.

      • Not trying to be a fly in the ointment, but I thought I’d pass along something that I found on a website yesterday:

        When you have a shower that is integrated into the washroom, you have to make sure you squeegie the floor (intensely) every time you shower, or you end up tracking dirt and dust (+ water = mud)in and out of the washroom all day long when you walk in there to use it. ‘Cause you know that water ain’t gonna stay where you want it to.

        Just something to consider…

        (Also, you are wise to avoid Houzz. I am completely obsessed with it and it is single-handedly responsible for the disappearance of most of my free time. Not that I’m complaining, mind you. An addict has to get her fixes somewhere.)

    • German Chocolate Betty says:

      I had one of these sliding doors in my apt in Berlin. The only problem is, of course, that you cannot have anything else on the wall where the door slides to its “open” position. For Jenny’s problem, she could do this INSIDE the bathroom (so when open the door would be in the shower end). However, the shouldn’t be a problem, because the door would be closed when someone is showering. Could be a cheap and easy solution.

      We are thinking of using this for our kitchen here in Bonn. Masonry construction means pocket doors are only possible when the building is first built (i.e., planned in). Changing or adding an electrical plug = chiselling a channel to where you want it to go (for the electrical cable), then using a special drill bit which gnaws out a hole approx 4″ across and 1.5″ deep (to set the – single — plug in). Then grouting it all everything you chiselled or drilled out. Then plastering over it or re-papering the wall…

      Every little change is carefully, carefully thought out, because it costs a bomb! :>

  36. Heather says:

    I like Option #1 best — I used a few of those all-in-one shower/baths in Europe, and while they were OK for hotel stays, they felt kind of odd. You couldn’t keep any toiletries in there (hair dryer, deodorant), because it’d get wet every time. But if you got a nice big vanity with drawers (or convert an old dresser), the sink in the bedroom could have lots of storage. And if it was a vessel sink it could even look like an old-school washstand with a bowl on top.

  37. Lola says:

    My cousin did option one. She took a slightly beaten up Queen Anne credenza and turned it into a bathroom sink. It’s in her bedroom and is the nicest looking piece of furniture in the room.

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